Curse

tuldor · Jan 11, 2006, 08:33 AM // 08:33

A single issue has been bothering me since a long time now... I'm quite a fan of FoW and UW, but I've never succeeded in completed all the quests.

The more I think about it, the more I am sure that there is something special out there for those who somplete all the quests in Grenth's realm and maybe in the FoW.

Why ? Imagine, Grenth is counting on you to clear his realm of all the scavengers that roam it, and tough ones I may add !!! As far as I know, nobody has ever achieved such a challenge !!! But some special reward for handling such a job is expected !

Just take Grenth's temple... Empty... But a light is coming from beneath the door... So what's there ??? A special entrance to HoH ???

So heroes, if you managed to clean up UW, please post your screens and share the magic !!!

Many thanks !!!

tuldor

twicky_kid · Jan 11, 2006, 08:34 AM // 08:34

It has been cleared by others and reported that you get absolutely nothing.

Deadlyjunk · Jan 11, 2006, 08:50 AM // 08:50

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Originally Posted by twicky_kid

It has been cleared by others and reported that you get absolutely nothing.

Can't you think of a slightly more... sensitive way of shattering someone's hopes?

As in:
Sorry to dissapoint you, but apart from quest experience and monster drops you don't get anything from the quests. However, they are still quite fun to do (if you have a considerable amount of time to kill), so don't let the fact there is no reward for your hard labor daunt you!

Anyway, you get something from doing them all: a feeling of OMG I'm uber-skilled! It's not easy...

tuldor · Jan 11, 2006, 09:04 AM // 09:04

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Originally Posted by twicky_kid

It has been cleared by others and reported that you get absolutely nothing.

I have a doubt, those people, those others as you say, did they post any screen to prove that they've been through all the quests ??? Cause I am not ready to believe someone just like that. Such a exploit must have been told somewhere, is there a post ??? At that time I would be ready to face the truth...

So I am still full of hope

Rc The Mad · Jan 11, 2006, 09:31 AM // 09:31

Eight members of my guild cleared a very large chunk of Fissure today using the book trick with very little difficulty including forgemaster, the entire beach and forest. I'm positive many other groups have completed every single quest this way.

The Herbalizer · Jan 11, 2006, 10:20 AM // 10:20

It has been reported by mant trust worthy individuals that they have cleared uw and fow and there is nothing.

Battle Torn · Jan 11, 2006, 10:35 AM // 10:35

Until i see proof I dont beleive it. if I cleared UW or FoW I would take a screenie.

Screenie plz ppl !

Linsys · Jan 11, 2006, 11:08 AM // 11:08

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Originally Posted by Battle Torn

Until i see proof I dont beleive it. if I cleared UW or FoW I would take a screenie.

Screenie plz ppl !

Maybe, the first time, but when you clear FoW 20+ times there is NO point, I useto organize vent FoW groups all the time in ToA and would clear every quest.. I can answer ANY question about FoW even the leve and class of the ghosts that give you quests, where every pop up is at.. etc.. etc.. etc..

FoW is easy to clear, not only have I completed every quest but I have killed EVERY thing inside of FoW..

It actually is quite BORING running FoW using the book, because all I do is spam seed, healing hands, healing bresse and an orison here and there on the warrior..

When I play my warrior and run arround with the book, its like WOW this is soooo fun...

Seriously FoW is not hard at all, UW IMO is 10x harder then FoW... and again there is no SPECIAL reward I can guarantee you that..

If you want to get into a clear FoW group one day message me in game @

L I N S Y S
OR
Linsys Man

Feel free to take a screen shot and post it here... you will however be disapointed with no special event or item.... however it does make for more fun when using Vent or TS because u get a chance to interact with people..

tuldor · Jan 11, 2006, 11:59 AM // 11:59

We know that FOW is pretty easy, I didn't clear it myself because simply don't have the time... But I did all the quests (but not at once on a single trip, so I don't know)

But my major concern regards UW, which is the real challenge !!! So I am ready to believe people saying they've cleared FOW but UW, I need proofs.

Soflaz · Jan 11, 2006, 12:05 PM // 12:05

How do expect someone to prove it? take several ss's of the place empty?

I'll tell you what, ext time I go to clear it again I'll take screen of every part of it empty for you. But believe them when they say that there's nothing special down there.

Big_Iron · Jan 11, 2006, 12:11 PM // 12:11

I was lucky enough to clear FoW on my first trip, but I was fortunate because I lucked into an experienced and extraordinary group. Actually, when I completed it, I wasn't disappointed at all because I didn't expect to find the meaning of life in the end. See, I had just completed the Titan quests before running FoW for the first time. Upon completing that last one I remember everyone was standing around, "That's it? That's all there is?" All you get for finishing all the Titan quests is a buttload of XP. No magical gates open. Grenth doesn't heap huge bounties upon you. Almost like the real world, where you get a pat on the back for a job well done then booted out the door to make room for the next hero.

ktadie · Jan 11, 2006, 12:26 PM // 12:26

when you guys say *clearded* uw or Fow, is it just killing everything there, or aslo doing all of the quests`?

generik · Jan 11, 2006, 01:03 PM // 13:03

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Originally Posted by tuldor

I have a doubt, those people, those others as you say, did they post any screen to prove that they've been through all the quests ??? Cause I am not ready to believe someone just like that. Such a exploit must have been told somewhere, is there a post ??? At that time I would be ready to face the truth...

So I am still full of hope

Go search around if you don't believe. In particular there was this really amusing post by 2 monks and 1 nec that managed to 3 man the whole of UW.

Seeing the three of them /attention at every monument *cleared* is very amusing (especially the necro)

Cygnus_Zero · Jan 11, 2006, 01:19 PM // 13:19

I've seen videos of a Necro soloing UW and FoW. It was a 55hp SS build. But it's much faster if you can get a 55 monk and play a SS/SV Necro.

ktadie · Jan 11, 2006, 01:44 PM // 13:44

sorry, accedently posted twice >.<

sno · Jan 11, 2006, 02:07 PM // 14:07

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Originally Posted by tuldor

We know that FOW is pretty easy, I didn't clear it myself because simply don't have the time... But I did all the quests (but not at once on a single trip, so I don't know)

But my major concern regards UW, which is the real challenge !!! So I am ready to believe people saying they've cleared FOW but UW, I need proofs.

i've cleared uw with 3 people, all quests except 1. I also believe that that single quest (the Four Horsemen) has only been completed by a select few, and I myself have not completed it (after several failed attempts.) Once I successfully complete EVERY quest in UW trust that there will be screenshots.

To give everyone a glimpse of how impossibly hard the Horsemen quest is, you have to kill 2 identical groups of 6 dryders and 2 horsemen. The horsemen are lvl 28 mesmers, packing wastrels, diversion, 2 enchantment removals and 2 interupts (one of which being Power Block, an INSANE skill to begin with). These 2 groups form and run towards a reaper from opposite directions, a reaper who must incidentally remain alive or you die and must leave UW. This forces you to split your team into 2 groups (we tried avoiding the reaper and guiding them into 1 big group...doesn't work.) This leaves a 4 man team to deal with 6 dryders (fire ele) and 2 Crazy mesmers with insanely high hp. I've never seen it done, nor do I know of anyone who's done it.

Could it be possible that no one has cleared uw? I find that unlikely, as there are many great players. But a VAST majority have not, and will not ever be able to do such a quest.

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Go search around if you don't believe. In particular there was this really amusing post by 2 monks and 1 nec that managed to 3 man the whole of UW.

Seeing the three of them /attention at every monument *cleared* is very amusing (especially the necro)

He's talking about me! :O I didn't notice that till after I posted >.<

saphir · Jan 11, 2006, 02:26 PM // 14:26

okay, to stem any more threads that become a rumor mill for how gwen is the queen of the underworld.. here are the asked for screenshots

these are from the first time i cleared uw, a long 5 hour trip. it was w/ a pug i hung out w/ just for this purpose. their names have been hidden to protect the guilty

while going thru my screen caps it seems there was one quest i forgot to screencap - wrathful spirits from the reaper of the forgotten vale. sad, but if a party can't complete that quest they really don't belong in uw.

i've comp'd the multiple images together to save space:

uwclear01.jpg - (clockwise from left) 4 horsemen quest, ice king quest, save the souls quest, demon assasin quest

uwclear02.jpg - (clockwise from left) terrorweb queen, unwanted guests, restore monuments, escort souls

uwclear03.jpg - (top) posing for a shot w/ the chaos planes reaper and the reward chest. the gray dot on the radar is the 6th spider we killed hehe.
this was after we went back thru and killed all remaining mobs in uw, except for the souls in the bone pits as they keep respawning. suffice it to say we were quite disappointed that there was no reward after making certain that we did not miss a single mob.
(middle) we did the labyrinth quests last since they are the easiest
(bottom) posing for some screenshots after running around uw making sure we had taken out all the mobs

what should be self evident is that we cleared the chamber quest to get to the first reaper. Although the terrorweb queen quest was and still is broken (you don't actually have to finish it to get the xp), it's a very simple quest and you'll have to take my word for it that we finished both that one and wrathful spirits from the forgotten vale reaper. =)

and ... no... sorry to burst your bubble but there is no reward for clearing all uw quests/subquests. nilch, nada, no globs, no gwen, no gold, no message, no greneth... just the vast emptiness of... a cleared uw

tuldor · Jan 11, 2006, 02:27 PM // 14:27

I failed the horsemen quest too and knowing its difficulty, I would like to read from people who managed to triumph over those nasty villains...

And again, no, I am not going to believe someone who simply claims that he managed something, I am not gullible, that would be too simple. I recognize what sno has been thru... but he's the only one. apart from this I get to read : just believe them if they tell you so. To the christians I would be like Saint Thomas, to the others, I would be like Hans Blickx.

And I am not asking this simply to know if there is or isn't a special reward but also to learn how to defeat the horsement and win the quest. Voilà. So don't spoil my dreams of a huge challenge followed by Grenth's favor !!! :lol:

tuldor · Jan 11, 2006, 02:30 PM // 14:30

THX saphire !!! Did you go to Grenth's temple after having completed all the quests, just to check if something was lurking down there ???

sno · Jan 11, 2006, 02:33 PM // 14:33

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Originally Posted by tuldor

And I am not asking this simply to know if there is or isn't a special reward but also to learn how to defeat the horsement and win the quest. Voilà. So don't spoil my dreams of a huge challenge followed by Grenth's favor !!! :lol:

Seems clear that when Saphir did it, it was before the aoe nerf, which left a lot of options as to possible methods. I'm not sure if it has been done since the AoE nerf, but I think saphis' post definitely clears up the "what happens after you do it" business.